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The Faux Heart Attack


Now that McCain is 10 points up, which is an 18-point free fall for The One in one month, Joe Biden's "heart attack" is on the way - about two weeks from now.

And in comes Hillary...


by Brett Rogers, 9/7/2008 9:51:55 PM


Now that is an interesting scenario. Do you think Hillary would ever accept the VP spot? I felt even if offered it before Biden she'd turn it down. The Clinton's don't like second place and once he secured the nomination I saw the Clinton's as playing the spoiler, doing what they can to help Barry tank 08 so she could come back as the savior of the party in 2012.

If she did accept can you imagine the dysfunction in an Obama/Clinton campaign? Laughing here just considering the possibilities.

Even if Hillary joined the ticket now I don't think it will slow down McCain/Palin. The base is now on board, train is moving ahead full speed carrying a message I believe resonates with the majority of the population. McCain/Palin in 08, Palin/Jindal 12. :)

Here is one other wish. In McCain/Palin administration. Please get Mitt on board as treasury secretary.



Posted by Pale Rider, 9/7/2008 10:52:04 PM

Since Bill invited Barry to drop by next week, I'd say that Bill will put it on the table and tell Barry that to bring Hillary in, it'll be suggested that she will serve in an expanded VP role. Kind of a co-president. (We've heard about her being in that role before, so it's not a new idea.)

Bill will play hard ball and remind Barry of the polling data. A lot.

And in 2012, for the first time in history, the plan will be that a sitting VP will campaign for the presidency against the seated President.

Does that sound Clinton enough for you?

If Barry and Hillary lose in November, it only strengthens Hillary because Barry's numbers will only go up by bringing her on, which makes her look good. So it's win-win for the Clintons, in my opinion.

And soon, Barry will have nothing to lose by doing this, because the election is pretty much lost. Unless he himself drops out - but I can't see that happening. Michelle wouldn't let him. She would lose any pride she has in this country if he did.



Posted by Brett Rogers (, 9/7/2008 11:05:41 PM

As for Mitt being treasury secretary, by the way, I don't think that will happen. It limits his income. He didn't expect - nor did I - the bigotry the evangelicals dished out at him. He doesn't want that. His faith matters too much to be kicked continually. Mitt is done with politics, I think. And the only reason to choose it would be to accelerate toward the presidency later, and Palin has that nomination wrapped up.

I think McCain will choose Meg Whitman or Carly Fiorina. Although Fiorina is a bit saddled with time at HP, she's very, very savvy and HP turned out better for the merger. She'd be good in the role and would be my personal choice.

That said, if Mitt would accept the role, he'd be truly superb.



Posted by Brett Rogers (, 9/7/2008 11:18:24 PM

Shivers up my spine, damn, that does sound like the Clinton's. Both Bill and the keeper of the testicle lockbox would add her greatest pair. Question of the day will be "will the Obama's accept?" I think Michelle has a major case of "lockbox envy."

I could see Obama accepting her as VP for 08, but I'd be stunned if he'd ever agree to step down as sitting president. He has far too much ego and the cries of racism would rip the party apart.

I know Mitt has gotten a pretty raw deal but he still played a good role in the party during the convention. Maybe knowing what the economy is facing he'd accept the appointment to protect his fortune? Would a "defensive role" be enough to convince him to take it. I want to say I hope he would but hope isn't a word I like to use anymore. Instead, I'll send an email to McCain pushing for Mitt as Treasury Secretary.

Don't hope, act. :)



Posted by Pale Rider, 9/7/2008 11:32:29 PM

I wasn't clear: in my scenario, Barry won't know that Hillary, the sitting VP if they win, will intend to run against Barry in 2012. Nor will he stand aside. But the lack of confidence vote when she runs against him will assure Barry's downfall. Hillary will keep enough memos to have evidence of his "corruption" and that will be that. She'll look like an anti-corruption fighter, and people will love her.

Deliciously Clinton.

I'll join you in pushing Mitt. I'll write him and McCain. He'd be the best, and perhaps love of country will propel him to consider. Country first, after all...



Posted by Brett Rogers (, 9/7/2008 11:56:55 PM

Oh that is sooooo "Clintonesque!" Pure, pure evil, oops Clinton. :D



Posted by Pale Rider, 9/8/2008 4:31:33 PM

Dude. You nailed this one.



Posted by Pale Rider, 9/10/2008 9:19:42 PM

So let's play this out...

Biden bids adieu, and Hillary comes on board as VP. I think, at this point, Obama is too much damaged goods. Yes, having the professionals on staff (Bill and Hillary) will help him, but it doesn't erase the fact that his behavior toward Hillary and his behavior now toward Palin has cemented, for many, the impression that he is a sexist jerk. "Sweetie..."

It also doesn't erase his complete lack of accomplishments. He authored two books and no legislation. He never bucked his party on anything. He rarely did anything in the Senate commitees to which he was assigned. Does it get any emptier than that for the person running for president?

Hillary on the ticket looks way more powerful than he does. Which is why I've now switched to the Torricelli option. I think McCain will run against Hillary in the election. As much as Michelle hates Hillary, I think Obama will step out of the way under incredible pressure and give it to Hillary in a graceful speech about hearing the women of America and all that and stepping aside. And that's a mighty powerful message if he does that which would erase his current problems.

Obama faces two options, in my opinion:

1) Lose big in November.
2) Have a pretty decent shot at being vice-president.

Option 2 looks pretty good for him.

But here's the thing: if Obama gives in to Hillary, if you think the Republican base is ignited now, wait until Hillary is at the top of the ticket.

If Obama switches places with her and still loses, he goes down as one of the biggest flameouts in history.

Heck of a gamble, either way. Sucks to be him.



Posted by Brett Rogers (, 9/10/2008 11:44:44 PM

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